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I mean of course there must be some racist people who hate Turks, there are racist people everywhere unfortunately. I myself as a Turkish person never had a problem in Greece (I was on vacation there).
I mean of course there must be some racist people who hate Turks, there are racist people everywhere unfortunately. I myself as a Turkish person never had a problem in Greece (I was on vacation there).
I was just wondering what Greek people think about Turks, are we showing as *insert a negative noun/adjective here* by media or something else?
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4 marca 2009 o 16:05
i think they had a war, so they hate each other…
7 marca 2009 o 22:53
I have removed my comments - to allow the ‘away with the fairies’ attitude to continue! How sad when one cannot see truth .
I teach my children to judge the person they meet and not make sweeping racist comments about ANY nationality (which also includes my own - to the answerer who brought mine into it!!)
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9 marca 2009 o 11:37
One sample of this is the Cyprus dispute
The Cyprus dispute is today the conflict between Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots and also Republic of Cyprus and Turkey over Cyprus, an island nation in the eastern Mediterranean Sea. Since the arrival of the British on the island of Cyprus, the “Cyprus Dispute” was identified as the conflict between the peoples of Cyprus and Great Britain as a colonial ruler. The core of the dispute was Cypriots demand for self determination. Britain shifted the “Cyprus Dispute” from a colonial dispute to a dispute between Turks and Greeks[1] although Britain had denounced the agreement between herself and Turkey over Cyprus, and declared Cyprus as a British colony. Today, the problem has involved Turkey, Greece, the United Kingdom, the USA, the United Nations and recently the European Union. Since 1974 the internationally recognised Republic of Cyprus has been divided. The dividing line which cuts across the country has created a physical and social barrier between the Greek and Turkish Cypriot Communities. The Turkish Cypriot community declared itself Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, condemned by UN Security Council Resolutions as legally invalid. It is recognised only by Turkey.
This dispute stands in the way of Turkey becoming part of the European Union (EU)
12 marca 2009 o 10:11
I don’t think that any sensible Greek would deny that the word “Turk” is associated with negative perceptions in Greece. Is it associated with something positive elsewhere in continental Europe?
But I guess it is overstretched to call it hatred. I am not aware of any racism incidence against a Turk visiting or permanently living in Greece.
@Asimenia: there is a general dispute in Greece as whether we should go on having school parades in Greece or not. I am against them. But don’t you think this is a rather progressive answer for the Turkish people where a l;rage number swears by their army and define themselves by the army? It’s also not about what happened 100s of years ago -as you say- but just 85 years ago (1922) and even 55 years ago (1955) and even 35 years ago (1974) and even 10 years ago (Imia-Kardasi). Take it easy here…:)
I strongly condemn racism wherever that happens. It happens also in Greece. But not against the Turkish people (see Albanians and other immigrants here). Turkish people suffer in Germany, Belgium, Netherlands and elsewhere in western Europe.
I am sure there are wonderful people in Turkey and I am just focusing only on them.
13 marca 2009 o 17:11
I would say that is a love hate situation.
My tribe, as the Armenians ans the Assyrians, has suffered a lot of misfortunes from the Turkish during the 20s.
But I cant say that we hate them but we don’t love them either.
depends on the person.
I believe that you will find more people in Belgium hating the turkish than in Greece
as for the parades, i like them, its like a tradition.
i don’t regard it as weapon of propaganda.
16 marca 2009 o 12:51
I want to congratulate asimenia for her campaign against the Greek racism.
I also want to apologize to her because by being Greek I don’t have any kind of anti-racism complexes simply because my Greek ancestors didn’t colonize 1/4 of the world and were not using people like animals, just like the British did.
I would also want to support asimenia’s campaign against the FILTHY British policy in Cyprus and the Middle East (from the Middle Ages until today)
and finally I want to express a big thank you for the involvement of the British in the Greek Civil war.
18 marca 2009 o 20:45
No. Greeks like Turks as individuals. We don’t agree with specific policies of Turkey’s foreign policy, but we don’t have any problem with individual Turks.
asimenia, you are wrong calling us liars, and please let us know better how we feel. What you don’t understand is that what you perceive as hatred towards “Turks” is in fact what I explain as the general concept against turkish policy from old times and recent times. Not gaianst any individual Turks. We have the same feelings for example against American policy, so you may hear people shouting against “Americans” on demonstrations in the streets, but individual Americans have no problem in Greece and no one has any problem with individuals from the US. The same with English. Most of the people in Greece would tell you (well, they wouldn’t tell you in your face, but they would say in general) that they are not very fond of the “English people”. In te same time, they have no problem being close friends with you as a person and liking you very much and deeply.
21 marca 2009 o 23:54
There is a Turkish word used in Greece to describe someone who keeps his word of honor and can be trustworthy. “Besalis”.
It’s a word that doesn’t describe the policy of the Turkish government and more than once it was exhibited in bi-national relations. I would not say our side is an angelic one, but the mistrust build in the course of ages and the feeling of uneasiness this lack of trust creates, is the reason behind the negative attitude that people have against anything of Turkish origin.
Yet, as nations, we share more than things and ideas in our cultures but the chauvinistic beliefs prevail.
Regarding the question the parades raise here, I maintain in minimizing their use to bare minimum, because they serve a purpose in reminding, lest we forget. We should not forget that tiny Greece was the only European country that stood its ground to the Axis forces. Nor should we forget the efforts made by the people to shake off the Ottoman ruling.
22 marca 2009 o 11:37
I grew up in Australia,with Turks and people of all races and I love everyone.Ive noticed the only big difference with Greeks and Turks is their religion and language everything else is similar.I want peace between our nations and for people not to believe trouble making politicians.
24 marca 2009 o 22:52
This question is a little….outdated, to say the least. Greece has made rapid progress in many areas. The discrimination against foreigners is a well cultivated effort by some to keep us occupied and apart from the real problems our country is facing (northern border dispute, selling out our land, Greeks becoming inferior to others in their country,etc).
Greeks have a lot of other issues to take care of before they continue the hundreds of years old dispute. And honestly, some things are better to be forgotten, we have to live for the future and not the past.
Greeks do not hate Turks, it’s the goverments who like to stir things up and keep us all in out toes. If Turks come to Greece, they will be treated as friends, as you found out yourself
As for the priest’s answer to the child (see Asimenia’s answer), there is a lot of…disagreement with Orthodox priests and Turks (representing for Greeks all of Muslims ).
In general “Turks” were called people who did not fast, went to church, or in general lived by the Orthodox faith.
So its a general expression used when they mean someone is not a good Christian and as such (expression) should not be taken literally.The priest reacted to the child’s statement thinking that the child called his mother a Turk because she wasnt a good Christian.
If you don’t believe me ask any Greek about it.
25 marca 2009 o 10:20
Hate is a word we reserve for Satan and sin. But if you look at the history of Greece and Turkey, you can understand why Greeks do not look upon Turkey with much favour.
I Cr 13;8a
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Personally I know Turkish people and find them extremely nice. I keep a picture of a Turkish girl friend who I like very much.
However, I have absolutely no desire to ever visit Turkey now or in the near future. I know that it has a rich culture and much history to explore, but Turkey will have to repent before God, before I will step foot on its soil.
26 marca 2009 o 3:33
I’m neither Greek nor Turkish but I’ve lived in both countries for a while. Truth is media, education system (esp. teachers) provocate Greeks and Turkish people against each other. They all tell different stories, Greek media shows Greek as the innocent ones, Turkish media shows Turkish people as the innocent ones. Truth is, both countries made mistakes (and still do) in the history which is very normal because same happens between all neighbors in the world.
28 marca 2009 o 8:10
Personally i could never hate somebody because he is a Turk. I thing that on both sides of the Aegean sea are racist people and from the other side they are people who wants too look forward. In the past Greeks and Turks had lot of times war. The problem is that Greeks are educated,dreaming and growing with the glory of the Byzantine era and the things that once belong to the greek orthodox culture and had been lost. From the other side Turks are educated, dreaming and growing with the glory of the Ottoman era. I can’t blame either sides because thats the way we grew up. That Greeks and Turks are enemies for the last 800 years. I thing that if we teach the younger and next generation to respect each other nation and the remains of the pass of the other( like the little Greek minority in Constantinople-Istanbul, Imbroz, Tenedos or elsewere with their religious believes and from other side the Turkish minority in Thrace.)
Our borders are now like that, if we both like it or not. The passport to a better future is to accept that and start too act like good neighbors. I don’t thing that it is a danger for Turkey a Patriarch and a rest of few thousands Greeks and from the otherside some thousands Turks in Thrace.
Concluding I thing that there are more things that can unify us than to separate us. We believe in ONE GOD and I don’t care if his name is Theos or Allah. I’m sure that the same god would be ashamed that we use His Name to bring death,hunger and difficulties to each other. The only which have benefits from the Greek-Turkish disputes are some racist generals from both sides and the companys which sells military equipment.
Thing what Greece and Turkey could do for their poor nations with all these money
29 marca 2009 o 12:08
Being Greek, my entire family has always had a grudge against Turks. I doubt it was anything they acquired by personal experience. I think it’s just a grudge that has been passed down the generations after a war between Greece and Turkey. I know it’s wrong, and I can’t convince my stick-in-the-mud family members that Turks are people too.
Evidence of this Greek toward Turk hatred shown in My Big Fat Greek Wedding when the Yiayia (grandmother) is cursing the Turks in Greek.
30 marca 2009 o 22:48
Surely this animosity should have subsided by now. I am of Greek origin and I don’t feel this way towards the Turks. I think the older generation probably still feel it because of the way in which their lives were affected as kids, and the threat they represented to Greece for a long time. We have to bury the hatchet sooner rather than later otherwise both sides will continue to suffer for the wrongs of the past.